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Promotion before bct
Posted by doug on 8/8/2002, 11:21 am
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I have gone through all of my testing to score my e-2 my recruiter however tells me that this will be changed on my contract at meps the day i am scheduled to depart for basic, My recruiter has a history of not being correct and not completeing paper work on time does anyone know if this is correct I dont want all of my studying to go to waste and he did garuntee my but this sounds a bit fishy to me
Re: Promotion before bct
Posted by Mike C. on 8/8/2002, 1:57 pm , in reply to "Promotion before bct "
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If I were you I would call his recruiting station commander and asking him or her. You might go to www.usapa.army.mil and search for AR 601-210. It has all the info on getting promoted before basic. If none of this is helpful to you, I would want to see my rank correctly on my contract before I signed it and was sworn in. This way you are sure of what your rank will be.
how long does it take to get a medical discharged?
Posted by Erin on 8/8/2002, 12:49 pm
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We have not heard from my daugther's husband for about 3 days now,last we heard he had several test run and was seeing a heart specialist,we are very worried about him.Do they get to call home and let you know if they are getting discharged or what happeneds? How long does it usually take for this kind of discharge? He has not lefted for boot camp yet still at something called reception.Thanks
Re: how long does it take to get a medical discharged?
Posted by Mike C. on 8/8/2002, 2:07 pm , in reply to "how long does it take to get a medical discharged?"
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If he is still at the reception station, then he should be able to call, but there must be a good reason for not doing so. A medical discharge can sometimes take months, but in this type of case it is usually pretty quick. They have to run tests to verify the condition and then have to determine if the person can still be trained. Once this is done, the person is processed for separation, or training. Because he had not actually begun his basic then the process should go by pretty quick if he is processed for medical discharge. It just depends on the availability of doctors, speed of return of tests, etc. Try not to worry about him. He'll call when he knows something, or he's allowed to begin training because his condition is not considered life threatening. Either way, just try to be as patient as you can. I'll think good thoughts for your family.
How do you thank a recruiter who's done a great job?
Posted by Dan on 8/8/2002, 5:12 pm
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Every since I stepped foot in a recruiting office, all the recruiters at the station I go to (Rochester, MN) have been more than helpful. The recruiter in charge of my area, SSG Michael Lewis, has been more help than I could ever imagine. He's come to our house on more than one occasion to meet my parents and discuss things with them.He's answered all of my questions to the best of his ability, and the ones he can't answer he finds answers for, either by asking others or researching it himself. He even called up the MEPS station the morning I was there and told them what I wanted and where I wanted to go, so when I sat down for my contract the counselor already know what I wanted and I just needed to confirm it and he printed out the papers.Anyways, I've read lots of stories of people who don't trust their recruiters, who've had lies told to them, and they have my sympathy. I'm very thankful for the recruiters I've met and was wondering if there's anything I can do to thank them. Is there a way I can write their commander and tell him/her what a great job they do? Please help me out because I'm more than grateful to these individuals.
Re: How do you thank a recruiter who's done a great job?
Posted by RT on 8/9/2002, 8:23 am , in reply to "How do you thank a recruiter who's done a great job?"
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I would surely write a nice letter to his commanding officer. That way, the person who is in charge of your recruiter's evaluations sees it, and it will reflect favorably upon him. Glad to hear someone here had a nice experience with their recruiter:-))
OCS Enlistment question
Posted by John on 8/9/2002, 8:55 am
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Hi. I have a bachelor's degree and wish to join the Army National Guard. I have been hearing conflicting stories from various people. My recruiter tells me that I can go in as an E-4 Specialist, attend Basic Training (9 weeks, no AIT), then start OCS with a promotion to E-6 Candidate (13 months, 1 weekend/month + 2 weeks in the summer). Others already in the service have told me that I shouldn't have to go to BCT, and that I should be able to enter as 0-1 2nd Lt. Does anyone here know for sure? I am inclined to beleive my recruiter, but one of the biggest jokes in the Army is, "But my recruiter said ...!" It would be nice to start out at 0-1 pay, even if I did have to attend Basic. If anyone has the straight dope, I'd really appreciate hearing it before I sign anything.
Re: OCS Enlistment question
Posted by Mike C. on 8/9/2002, 9:14 am , in reply to "OCS Enlistment question"
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You can not come in as an O-1. You must come in as an E-4. After basic training, then you go through OCS and get paid as an E-6 while doing it. There are rare circumstances where you can come in as an officer. Some of these are if you come in as a doctor, pharmacist, etc. Trust in your recruiter. For every horror story you hear, there are a thousand stories of great recruiters that you never hear. I've dealt with a number of recruiters over the years and I've only had problems with one. The rest were 100% professional.
Re: OCS Enlistment question
Posted by Romulusguy on 8/9/2002, 3:27 pm , in reply to "Re: OCS Enlistment question"
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Hi Mike...I too enlisted into the ARNG via OCS Enlistment. I am going in as an e-3 (im 2 semesters away from my BA). When and if I am accepted into OCS, will I also be promoted to E-6, or is that only for E-4's?Thanks-Romulusguy
Re: OCS Enlistment question
Posted by Mike C. on 8/9/2002, 3:47 pm , in reply to "Re: OCS Enlistment question"
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No, all OCS candidates are not actually promoted to E-6. It is only for pay purposes. It is not like you wear E-6 stripes while you train, you just get paid as an E-6. Rank before OCS doesn't matter. You can be an E-2, or an E-6, but you will all get the same E-6 pay.
Chapter 11 ELS- FTA/LOSD
Posted by Kataratos on 8/9/2002, 11:59 am
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How soon can I re enlist after a chapter 11 uncharacterized entry level seperation for failure to adapt/ lack of self control. (some people have told me 2 years, some say 6 months) Also, there were some things done pertaining to my discharge that went against tradoc regs. I was chaptered from the motivational company. I was moved to the motivational company for having two article 15's. THe one that caused my transfer was for an unsecure wall locker. (It's a long story...I'll share if needed.) IE: TRADOC REG 350-6; AR 600-35 Ch 11 *No private will be ELS'd prior to his 4th week of training unless he is highly disruptive or suicidal. (I was ELS'd after only the third week, and was not documented as either of the exceptions.) *The platoon srgt will maintain an accurate written record of counseling on each private from the day of assignmone on DA Form 4856. Most separations require a minimum of TWO counseling statements; an initial one to put the private on notice and a seond one to document a second instance of substandard duty or act of misconduct. (I only received one) (There were inaccuracies on it, that could be proven with statements from other soldiers present when the incident occured) *Before submitting the ELS packet, the 1sg will interview the private. If it is determined during the interview that the private should be transferred, the 1sg will recommend a platoon. (I was not interviewed by the 1sg before being transfered. I asked to speak to him, and was refused.) (The interview with the 1sg at the motivational co. before being chaptered, I was told that it was not my turn to talk, that I was to listen to the 1sg read the papers, and then I was to sign them. I did not get to speak in my defense at all.) *The commander will counsel the private explaining the rehabilitative transfer and the details of what is exepected and the consequences of unsatisfactory job performance... (I never received this counseling. I never got to speak to the CO before being transfered, though I did request to.) *The private will not be pulled from training until approved by the battalion commander. (I was pulled from training almost 5 weeks before the battalion commander approved my chapter. I was pulled from training, a week before the 1sg and CO even started my chapter papers.) *The private must see JAG about his ELS and then attend an interview with his chain of command and the battalion commander prior to his final out processing from the company and the battalion. (I was sent to TDS, but they were closed that day. I never did speak with JAG/TDS (they made me sign the paper to waive my rights, after TDS was closed because there was a 48 hour limitation that expired...my mistake, my ignorance.) I did not speak with the chain of command as stated. AND I NEVER SAW THE BC, even though I requested to speak to him, to appeal my chapter.) What can I do? I tried fighting it before they chaptered me, and the Drill Srgts kept blocking me. I was even denied at one point to be allowed to speak to the chaplain. The reasons for chaptering me...yes I made a mistake, but it I don't see that it justifies my being chaptered, either. Who knows anything? Who should I talk to? Who can help me? Who can I file a complaint with? How do I get back in? How soon can I get back in? Help.
Re: Chapter 11 ELS- FTA/LOSD
Posted by Mike C. on 8/9/2002, 1:50 pm , in reply to "Chapter 11 ELS- FTA/LOSD"
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Immediately go to www.usapa.army.mil and download a copy of AR 635-200. Read over the whole thing, but concentrate on chapter 11. Next, go to a search engine and find the website for the Military discharge review board. You waived your rights, which I won't get on you about, because you know the mistake you made. At the review board site, download the application form and fill it out. Get copies of all your counceling statements, separation papers, etc. Get in touch with all the people that witnessed the events that caused your discharge, or your commands failure to follow proper procedure. Ask them to sign statements to that effect. They have to be notarized. Put all this stuff together in a logical and orderly fashion. Make copies of the Regs that were not followed correctly. Highlight the appropriate parts and send the whole thing in with your application. You might get your discharge changed, you might not. It's a crapshoot either way. You have to at least try. You might have broken the rules, but that does not justify your command breaking rules to kick you out quickly. For the future, never sign anything that might hurt you without talking to JAG. The discharge review process takes months, but at least if it goes your way, you will have no problems when you try to come in again. If not, you will require waivers for your discharge and they can take months. Good luck with it.
Re: Chapter 11 ELS- FTA/LOSD
Posted by Mike C. on 8/9/2002, 2:03 pm , in reply to "Chapter 11 ELS- FTA/LOSD"
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Hey! That review board site is http://arba.army.pentagon.mil/adrb.htm If you have any questions that aren't answered at that site, then Email me at michael.cuff1@us.army.milI've put one of these packets together for someone before and the discharged was upgraded. This type of thing is a long process, so don't get discouraged if things don't go quickly or your way.
how do you get promoted from pt test before basic?
Posted by ds on 8/9/2002, 2:51 pm
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I've heard you can get promoted before basic training, if you pass your pt test? When do they administer this PT test? Right before basic training starts? Or can you take it before you even enter the reception? If so, how can you do this?
Re: how do you get promoted from pt test before basic?
Posted by amy on 8/9/2002, 3:03 pm , in reply to "how do you get promoted from pt test before basic?"
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It is not just a pt test that you take to get promoted you are tested on rank structure for,marching executing rest, parade rest ,attention, salute and all of thos movements, grid coordiance and map reading,your 3 general orders ,first aid and some other things and on top of that you have to take you pt test situps puchups and 2 mile run if you pass all of these before you leave for basic and get you recruiter to do the paper work your can be promoted to an e-2 talk to your recruiter about doing this and make sure the paper work is ready before you leave for basic or the promotion will not go into effect
Re: how do you get promoted from pt test before basic?
Posted by SGT Mike on 8/10/2002, 2:12 am , in reply to "Re: how do you get promoted from pt test before basic?"
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I believe the program is called DEP/DTP and you have to complete a pre-basic task list (including a PT test). RT please confirm!!! It's ABSOLUTELY worth it; remember, promotion to E-2 is the largest raise you'll get for a long time (probably the biggest during your 1st enlistment). Remember, an E-1 during basic (actually, the first 4 months) earns $1023; after the first 4 months, $1105. But an E-2 gets $1239, a difference of $217!!! And of course, a 3-6 month headstart on E-3
Great website that gives DEP/DTP tips, plus PT, correspondence course and recruiter info
Posted by RT on 8/10/2002, 9:55 am , in reply to "Re: how do you get promoted from pt test before basic?"
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SGT Mike, you are correct! The website below does a pretty good job of explaining the DEP/DTP program, plus some info on PT and what you should be doing (ie keeping in contact with your recruiter, correspondence courses, etc..what is expected of you). To get to the DEP/DTP tasks and requirements, just click on Task List.
Link: http://www.usarec.army.mil/1stbde/1obn/Dep/YouandRec.html
What is a recruiter supposed to do?
Posted by john on 8/9/2002, 2:54 pm
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I don't leave for basic training for another 6 months, but I was wondering what a recruiter is supposed to do. It seems as if my recruiter hasn't done anything ever since he took me to MEPS and I got sworn in. I just wanted to know their responsibilities and what they are supposed to teach you before you leave. Or, is there not that much to learn and maybe he is procrastinating because I still have 6 month left?Thanks
Re: What is a recruiter supposed to do?
Posted by amy on 8/9/2002, 2:59 pm , in reply to "What is a recruiter supposed to do?"
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Your recruiter should answer any ?'s you have, if you want to get ahead of the game he should be able to give you the learning materials you need also can probably give you some pointers on varies flag etiqutte and rank structure just for your personal knowlegde you are supposed to speak with your recruiter once a week and see him once a month up until the time you leave also for your coorespondances that you can do on line for promotion points your recruiter can take you to the education center to get signed up so you can do those
Re: What is a recruiter supposed to do?
Posted by Mike C. on 8/9/2002, 3:54 pm , in reply to "Re: What is a recruiter supposed to do?"
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Hi. Go to www.aimsrdl.atsc.army.mil/secured/accp_top.htm and sign up for correspondence courses. Do as many as you can before you go to basic. For every 5 credit hours of them you do you get one promotion point. It might not sound like much, but when you get to E-4 you will have quite a few points if you keep up with it. It will help you when it comes time to make your E-5. About your recruiter, just check in weekly and if you can't get the answers to any questions, or want to learn then you might volunteer to work at the recruiting station a couple hours a week. This way you can pick up some info on things just by being there.
Re: What is a recruiter supposed to do?
Posted by Darlene on 8/9/2002, 3:43 pm , in reply to "What is a recruiter supposed to do?"
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I dont leave for basic until the end of November...I talk to my recruiter atleast twice a week. He is going to help me get in shape for basic, we have gone to the YMCA to run, along with a few other recruits who are in the DEPS program. While on my four year tour, I am going to be going to college. We are also going to have a meeting to set this all up and discuss my options.I have decided to change my MOS so he is going to drive me back to the MEPS (which is an hour away) and help me find something different. Your recruiter is responsible for making sure any and all of your questions are answered and making sure you feel as confident as possible going in to BCT. Remember, before you get to basic and get sworn in during reception week, the ball is in your court, dont let anyone talk you into anything you dont feel comfortable with. If you don't feel your recruiter is doing a good job getting you prepared for basic, find another recruiter. And don't wait until the last minute to start preparing...you have plenty of time before you leave, which is a awesome oppurtunity for you to be more than well prepared, mentally, emotionally and most of all physically. Good luck!!!!
Re: What is a recruiter supposed to do?
Posted by Angela on 8/9/2002, 5:24 pm , in reply to "Re: What is a recruiter supposed to do?"
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Thanks, I am definitely going to ask my recruiter about earning promotion points before I go. Especially the long distance learning. And I was told by my recruiter that if I joined a program in the Army through the education center to take online courses and I would receive a laptop computer to use and once I completed so many units then I would be able to keep the laptop. Have you heard about that?
Re: What is a recruiter supposed to do?
Posted by Mike C. on 8/9/2002, 11:56 pm , in reply to "Re: What is a recruiter supposed to do?"
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Yeah. That's called EarmyU. It is a great program. My wife is in it. I'm typing on her laptop right now. You have two years to complete 12 credit hours of college and you get to keep the laptop. You also get a good printer on top of the new almost top of the line laptop, as well as free tuition to the colleges in the program and free books, and free internet access from just about anywhere in the world. You have to have 3 years left in the Army when you sign up for the program though.
Tip for everyone going to basic
Posted by MEDIC91W on 8/9/2002, 6:19 pm
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If you have already enlisted. You should have recieved a military ID card at MEPs, which you should use to your advantage. If there is a military base no matter what branch it is; you should have access to their work out facility. You can run, lift weights, and do cardio there and you won't have to pay an expensive club fee to do so.
Re: Tip for everyone going to basic
Posted by sgt mike on 8/10/2002, 2:00 am , in reply to "Re: Tip for everyone going to basic"
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I am very lucky; Seattle has Ft. Lewis and several navy & AF bases. You might want to check out the CLOTHING SUPPLY STORE and buy 1 pair of boots, just to get used to wearing (and polishing) them. Also, movies are dirt cheap on base. And even if things at the PX are the same price as elsewhere, there is no sales tax (9% here in Washington!)
Graduation
Posted by Jen on 8/9/2002, 8:10 pm
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Okay well I had a few questions about graduation. My bf will be graduating Nov. 8 from Fort Leonard Wood, and I have been looking at the plane flights but they are very very expensive if you fly directly into Fort Leonard Wood. The flight are alot cheaper if you fly into St. Louis or Springfield, but I am not 21 yet so I can't rent a car, so I was wondering if anyone knows if the military has buses that pick up families from the airport and take them to Fort Leonard Wood, or something like this. I am sure there will be tons of families going and I just thought some people would run into this sort of problem, so I kind of assumed that Fort Leonard Wood may have some sort of transportation for the graduation. If anyone knows anything about this or has experienced something like this please let me know. Thanks
Re: Graduation
Posted by RT on 8/10/2002, 5:39 am , in reply to "Re: Graduation"
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Lots of folks who fly into St Louis or Springfield just end up getting a Greyhound busticket if they can't afford a car..just gotta be prepared to hire a taxi to and from the hotel, etc... Ft Leonard Wood is very spread out and too big for walking! When I was there, we did not have any shuttle service. I would go to the Resources Page and look up Ft Leonard Wood (3rd Brigade) and see what they have under their graduation links. Most posts have a page such as this.
How often do we get to go to the PX during BT?
Posted by david on 8/9/2002, 10:21 pm
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I just wanted to know how often are we allowed to go to the PX during basic training. I just wanted to know because what if we run out of toothpaste, envelopes, soap, etc?
Re: How often do we get to go to the PX during BT?
Posted by Kat on 8/10/2002, 9:05 am , in reply to "How often do we get to go to the PX during BT?"
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At Ft. Jackson, we were suposed to get to go every 10 days...but, I didn't get to go for 6 weeks!
Re: How often do we get to go to the PX during BT?
Posted by RT on 8/10/2002, 10:02 am , in reply to "Re: How often do we get to go to the PX during BT?"
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Especially in the first few weeks; don't expect to go..stock up at the reception station on the items on the shopping list they give you..it may be a few weeks before you get to go again.
Running Shoes
Posted by Romulusguy on 8/10/2002, 4:19 am
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HeyI have a pretty wide foot, and have a hard time finding shoes in the regular stores (Footlocker, Etc.. I usualy order wide or extra wide from New Balance, as they fit perfectly, and carry WIDE shoes. While preparing myself for basic, I wanted to buy myself some new running shoes, as my old ones are just about dead. The only problem is, New Balance does not sell a PURE WHITE shoe! Most ALL of the shoes are all whbite, but have a black stripe, or a bklack "N" (For new Balance), or some sort of color on it somewhere, other than white. My question is, is this acceptable at BCT, or am I out of luck? In other words, will a shoe that is not ONE solid color, and has a logo on it, be acceptable to use in training at BCT?I am worried that when I get there with these new shoes that fit my wide foot, the DSGT will take one look, notice something wrong, and make me get shoes that are NOT wide at the PX, which will cause harm to my foot.I am going to Fort Leonard Wood in October. If anyone can answer this question, I would greatly appreciate it.ALso, is it APPROPRIATE for me to call Fort Leonard Wood to ask questions about what to bring and what not? If not, who, BESIDES my recruiter, can I talk to, and if it IS appropriate, who do I contact?
Re: Running Shoes
Posted by Kat on 8/10/2002, 9:04 am , in reply to "Running Shoes"
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They make you buy them there. It doesn't matter if you have brand new ones or what. When I went the Drill Srgts checked the fit before you bought them, and if they didn't have your size they special ordered them (boots too) and you got heldover at reception.
Re: Running Shoes
Posted by RT on 8/10/2002, 10:01 am , in reply to "Re: Running Shoes"
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It all depends on where you go. At Ft Wood when I was there, if the recruit brought running shoes without those outrageous designs, we checked the fit and if that was kosher, they used them. A white shoe with a logo or stripe was okay. I've heard folks tell me that at Ft Jackson, they made you buy them there. In any case, running shoes do wear out every 6 months or so, so even if you bought a pair (you need something for now anyway), you could still use them after BT when your other ones wear out, or as an extra pair, so they won't go to waste! No, I would not call Ft Leonard Wood! Just follow the packing list on this page (like Mike said, you can just bring things to last you 3-4 days if you don't want to bring everything on the list..you'll have a chance to shop and get most of this stuff before you get to your BT company anyway). If there is something in particular that you're not sure about, just ask here:-))
Will the Drill Sergents be on your case during Chapel Service?
Posted by BrianJ. on 8/14/2002, 9:29 am
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Here's a question that came to my mind since I am a practicing Christian. If you attend the chapel service on Sundays, will the Drill Sergents be on your case and have you walk in formation as you take your seats and tell you where to sit? Also, are they going to forbid you if your one of those people who really gets into the worship (like I sometimes do) and clap or raise your hands or speak in tongues or speak in reply to the chaplain, as Baptists tend to do? Will they force me to keep my hands down or not? Also, I heard that in addition to the chapel service they have on Sundays, they also have an Evening Chapel Service during the week. I guess with all the hard work and stress you have, you take whatever spiritual guidance you can get. I know I would want to benefit from whatever guidance I can get, even if I forget to read my Bible some day or pray before I go to bed or whenever. Any input on this will be very helpful.
Re: Will the Drill Sergents be on your case during Chapel Service?
Posted by soldier on 8/14/2002, 5:14 pm , in reply to "Re: Will the Drill Sergents be on your case during Chapel Service?"
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you can do everything to do with praising while your in church the DS do not go in the church with they will release you and walk up the stairs to the church doors.
eArmyU
Posted by Angela on 8/14/2002, 10:40 am
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Here is the link to the website for eArmyU: http://www.earmyu.com/ Hopefully that will give those of us who are interested a better idea of this new program that the Army offers. Just keep in mind that unfortunately it is not available at all posts, check the website. Good luck! And yes they do have classes for you graduate people
College & the Army
Posted by Christy on 8/14/2002, 6:55 pm
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I will be a freshman at James Madison University (in Virginia) this fall, but I am seriously considering joining the Army after my first year. How does attending college work with being in the service? If I want to continue college, should I enlist in the Reserves? If so, will I have to be out of school for the required years of service, or will I be able to take classes that will count for credit? On the other hand, there is a MOS (93F: Field Artillery Meterology) that interests me...but it is only for Active Duty. Should I consider pursuing that course? Thank you all so much for your responses, they give everyone such good information. :-)
Re: College & the Army
Posted by Mike C. on 8/14/2002, 10:00 pm , in reply to "College & the Army"
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College in the Army can be a bit difficult at times, but not impossible. Many units limit the number of classes one can take per semester. In my unit it is 2 classes per semester. It will take you years longer to get your degree, but there are other rewards that you might find worth putting college on the back burner for. Classes you take while on active duty can be anything you want for whatever degree you are going for. You can fill your electives with classes that might relate to your MOS. I've never met anyone in 93F, but it sounds like it would be interesting. with the reserves, you can serve one weekend a month and 2 weeks a year. You might consider joining the reserves and attending ROTC classes while in college. You could become an officer and even come onto active duty after finishing school. These options are very personal. There are positives to any option in the military. I love serving in the Army. There are some negative times, but overall, I would not change my decision for anything. The choice is yours. We need educated men and women. Do well in school this semester!
College & the Army
Posted by Gun Bunny on 8/15/2002, 1:02 am , in reply to "Re: College & the Army"
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Another avenue for you to explore is your state's national guard. The guard follows along the same lines of the army reserve. In many states, you can get additinal tuition assistance through the state that is unavailable to USAR members. Both USAR/ARNG offer a program called split option training, in which you can attend basic training one summer, and AIT the next summer, so your training will not interfere with your full-time school schedule. If your college offers ROTC, you should invesigate the SMP program (too lengthy to explain here). Perks to the Weekend Warrior options? If you find that you like the Army, you can always get a release to go active duty, but if you sign active duty and hate it, you're in for the long haul! The downside? Yes, your MOS options depend on what units are stationed in your area. Promotions tend to come slower in reserve/ng units as there is usaually less liquidity among reseve pesonel, and less slots for you to be promoted to than the active army can offer. However, reserve units have quite a few college students in their ranks and strive to accomodate them as far as annual training goes. I hope I offered some insight, and good luck in your desicion!
Getting Ready for basic:
Posted by Keith on 8/15/2002, 1:23 am
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Hey, I leave for my bct on the 27th of Augest. Going to Fort Leonard Wood, MOS 95Bravo. I currently can run 2 miles no prob, but could probably push it to 2.5m or 3m with a D.S. yellen in my face. Can do about 30 pushups, again probably more with someone yelling at me. How well prepared physicaly am I to get threw basic? Is there anything I should do, last minute to get me more prepared? Thanks =)
Re: Getting Ready for basic:
Posted by Mike C. on 8/15/2002, 9:07 am , in reply to "Getting Ready for basic:"
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It sounds like you are ahead of the game. Just keep doing what you are doing. You didn't mention your sit-ups. Are you good there as well? Like I said, just keep doing what you are doing. You've got to remember, that these guys are used to people that can barely do 13 push-ups or run a mile under 20 minutes. Make sure you are stretching properly and do not over do it before you go. You don't want to get there sore in any way. Way to go mud pup! (just kidding! Good luck buddy!)
Re: Question about underwear
Posted by Angela on 8/15/2002, 11:06 am , in reply to "Question about underwear"
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When you head out to basic I suggest to keep the undies simple, white boxers, briefs, or boxer briefs. But what will happen is when it comes time to get your uniform you will get some nice brown briefs that will match your nice brown t-shirt which you will wear under your BDU's. So as you probably will see written in the room where we get our uniforms, you will be the best dressed soldier, . Good luck.
Re: Question about underwear
Posted by Angela on 8/15/2002, 12:01 pm , in reply to "Re: Question about underwear"
216.202.13.3
Sorry for the confusion, we us females wear white, yeah, guys wear brown. I just knew a little bit about his question and decided to answer it even though I am a girl, . But hooray for us we get to wear white,
Medical question: knees/allergies
Posted by John on 8/15/2002, 9:07 am
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Hi! I am getting ready to schedule my trip to MEPS, but I have a couple of medical concerns beforehand. The first is my knees. Since a football injury in high school, my kneecap can become dislocated pretty easily by a side impact. It hurts like heck, but I can re-locate it simply enough. Is that grounds for medical disqualification? My second potential medical problem is an allergy to ant bites. If I don't take antihistamines immediately after an ant bite (especially fire ants), I can go into anaphylactic shock (_possibly_, depending on the number/severity of the bites). Both of those are issues that may or may not be waived, but I'd like to know beforehand if I even have a chance of making it.
Re: Medical question: knees/allergies
Posted by AG on 8/15/2002, 10:00 am , in reply to "Medical question: knees/allergies"
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John,I can tell you from four trips to MEPS(stupid medical issues) that I saw people get disqualified for less then that. If you even hint at any type on knee injury they will almost always disqualify you and if by chance they don't you will have to go through hell to get them to accept you. As far as the ant thing, I was told that any type of allergy other then to meds is an automatic DQ sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but its better you know before hand. My advise to you is this: If you feel that these problems will not affect your performance in the military let them find the problems. However if you do not feel comfortable with that then be honest, but it may not have the outcome you want. If you have any questions about MEPS you can email me. Good luck
Re: Medical question: knees/allergies
Posted by Scott on 8/15/2002, 10:38 am , in reply to "Medical question: knees/allergies"
24.138.30.244
I had my left knee replaced a few years ago due to an accident. When I went to have my medical done they asked about the scar on my knee. I just told then it was sports related an that they did a scope and removed bits of junk floating around inside. They never questioned it any further and just did a reflex test and made me do 10 squats to make sure I was not hiding any knee problems. I never had a problem since my knee was replaced Just last month I got my call and was told I was accepted and I am getting ready to head out for basic training shortly
Re: Medical question: knees/allergies
Posted by Bear on 8/15/2002, 10:04 pm , in reply to "Re: Medical question: knees/allergies"
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Can you get shots for the ant allergy. My daughter was allergic to bees, hornets and wasps.She went on a series of allergy shots for five years and then was retested and is now no longer allergic to them.
Re: Medical question: knees/allergies
Posted by Kay on 8/17/2002, 2:42 pm , in reply to "Medical question: knees/allergies"
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I suggest you be honest, if not, it may come back to bite you. My son wanted to join so bad he did not think that child hood allergies and upper respiratory bronchitus would matter. The recruits seem to encourage you not to say anything at Meps. But it is worth getting tested and checked out throughly there instead of the hell you will encounter if you don't. They put you through tremendous physical strain to test your breaking point and if you have a problem it will be sure to show up. My son had the misfortune of getting bronchitus the first week there and was held in the reception battalion for over 42 days, this was no picnic and he was very anxious to get started down range. He got down range and started basic by he was finally discharged with an EPTS because the conditions were so severe he could not get well. If a soldier has a limitation it could be both a liability to himself and to his battle buddie and plattoon if in a combat situation. Honesty is the best policy, good luck.
Is anybody being picked up and set up in a hotel the night before being shipped out?
Posted by BrianJ. on 8/15/2002, 4:19 pm
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I'm supposed to be picked up by my Recruiter on Monday and set up in a hotel by MEPS in Chicago before being shipped out from MEPS to Basic Training in Ft. Jackson. Is anybody else having this done for them as well? I'm wondering if everyone who leaves for the military gets put up in a hotel the night before, or if it's just certain cities that do it depending on the location of their MEPS and where the recruits live. I live on the far southeast side of Chicago, almost near Indiana, and our MEPS is located in Des Plaines right near O'Hare Airport. So, of course I'll be put up in a hotel. I'm wondering this because I wonder if I should bring two sets of civilian clothes instead of one. Of course, don't they issue you your PT uniform the first night you're at Reception to be worn the next morning? One of the recruits from that Basic Training program said everyone was confused the first night because they didn't know what to wear their first day at Reception. I guess watching that program should tell us not to make the mistake of not knowing what to wear and therefore, the first night, wear the PT uniform to bed.
Re: Is anybody being picked up and set up in a hotel the night before being shipped out?
Posted by Angela on 8/15/2002, 4:28 pm , in reply to "Is anybody being picked up and set up in a hotel the night before being shipped out?"
216.202.13.3
I am getting the impression that we will all be set up in a hotel the night before we go to MEPS. Again when I go I will be at a hotel near the LAX. But I hear that after MEPS and before we get on the plane we can hang with family and friends. So I am curious also to your question.
Re: Is anybody being picked up and set up in a hotel the night before being shipped out?
Posted by Jen on 8/15/2002, 8:30 pm , in reply to "Re: Is anybody being picked up and set up in a hotel the night before being shipped out?"
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My bf had to stay in a hotel the nigth before he left, and then he was dropped off at the airport the next morning, and I met him at the airport. Hope that helps.
Re: Is anybody being picked up and set up in a hotel the night before being shipped out?
Posted by jen k. on 8/16/2002, 9:13 am , in reply to "Re: Is anybody being picked up and set up in a hotel the night before being shipped out?"
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Hello, everyone stays in the hotel the night before shipping... When my hubbie left I reserved a seperate room so we could be together. The reason they have you bring 2-3 changes of civilian clothing is that you don't get your uniforms right away at reception... usually 2-3 days (so you will be wearing civies at reception for a little bit)... Also they usually send you over to the Airport in a Taxi- your family can meet you at the Airport
If you're in the reserves, are you stationed permanently?
Posted by Katie on 8/15/2002, 5:06 pm
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I'm currently a college student(2nd year). The one weekend a month that I work for the reserves, is about 2 hours away from where I go to school. I was wondering, since there is a 6 year commitment....what if I want to get my Master's degree somewhere outside of this state but my 6 years is not up yet? Does this mean I have to stay in state until my 6 years are up, or can I be stationed somewhere else, preferably where I want to continue graduate studies?
Re: If you're in the reserves, are you stationed permanently?
Posted by Gun Bunny on 8/15/2002, 5:17 pm , in reply to "If you're in the reserves, are you stationed permanently?"
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You can transfer to another unit out of state. It depends if the units around where you plan to move have psitions in your paticular MOS. If you are willing to drive two hours for drill, and are in a fairly common MOS, I can't imagine it would be a problem. Worst case scenario, you might have to re-classify later on down the road.
96 B
Posted by TMC on 8/15/2002, 11:26 pm
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Can anyone tell me what an intel analyst does exactly. I know the training is at Ft. Huachuca, but that's about it. Are the duties any different in an airborne unit?
All MOSs have similar day-to-day duties
Posted by RT on 8/17/2002, 11:59 am , in reply to "96 B"
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You can read at any of the Army websites what the description of this MOS is...yes, you will be trained in those tasks in AIT and frequently conduct training to stay proficient in those tasks. Otherwise, you will do the same things other soldiers do in other MOSs and units. You will spend at least a day in the motorpool, working on your vehicles. At least another day working on your equipment (and I'm sure in the Intel business, there is a lot of that). You'll be doing details on post (ie mowing lawns, trash pickup, etc). You'll have required Army classes every now and then about sexual harassment, equal opportunities, etc.. More classes and practicing the general soldier skills (ie the ones you learn in basic), plus you'll go to the gas chamber and get more training in that area, water survival training, go to the rifle range, out to the field on a field training exercise, get inspected (you and your equipment), etc... These are the kinds of day-to-day activities you'll be doing, regardless of your MOS. In addition, if you are airborne, you will have to jump often to keep current in your jumps (to get jump pay, you have to jump a certain number of days per year)...I'm sure there are similar requirements for other non-traditional units also..I think you get the idea:-))
Just got home
Posted by Graham on 8/16/2002, 8:26 am
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I just graduated BCT yesterday, 15/aug, from Fort Benning Georgia. I'm a split op so I'm home until next summer when I go to AIT. So if any one wants to know what is going on up there on sand hill I would be more than happy to answer. If any of you future ITB guys don't think I can answer your questions, let me asure you the first 9 weeks of ITB is, for the most part, the same and the 9 weeks BCT. The only difference is that in ITB there is no 9 week gaduation or family day and after the 9 weeks are up you just continue onward to more extensive training. Beleive me, its what the drills say and what the ITB guys who I've talked to there say. So I would be more than happy to answer any questions for any future sand hill privates.
Re: Just got home
Posted by brandon on 8/16/2002, 12:22 pm , in reply to "Re: Just got home"
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I just got back from BCT about a week ago from FT Leonard Wood and I'm also a split op. Basic training changes everyone physically of course, but i think i've changed more mentally then physically. The biggest thing that has changed probably is my attitude towards people or situations. I find myself more optimistic about bad situations and also more patient. Things that you normally don't even think about at all will come out and show themselves once you go back to the "real world". Also, I find myself having much more better manners as I have learned the true meaning of respect. Any questions about anything that has to do with basic training, I'll be glad to answer.
PT test probation???
Posted by Linda on 8/16/2002, 4:15 pm
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My son is in his third week of BCT at Benning, and he wrote that during his second PT test, he did not improve 50% in each part, therefore signed some paper that he was on probation. Can anyone tell me how serious this is, or at least what it means? Thanks for any help.
Re: PT test probation???
Posted by RT on 8/17/2002, 12:05 pm , in reply to "PT test probation???"
68.70.110.125
I would not worry too much, especially since this is his second PT test. This must be a way the drills at Benning (or possibly only in this company or battalion) get the soldier motivated. It's amazing how much of a motivater something like this can be! A lot of the PT test really is mental..it is so EASY to give up when it gets a little bit difficult (and then you have a poor score to show for it). Just tell your son to keep at it..encourage him..try to get him motivated to succeed!
What will a basic training day consist of will there be times of going to bed around 9pm
Posted by scottyboy on 8/16/2002, 5:16 pm
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Just curious what my day will really consist of. What time am I actually up and what time will I get to bed. Will there be days of going to bed around 8 or 9 pm or is there that much work in the evenings preparing for the next day
Re: What will a basic training day consist of will there be times of going to bed around 9pm
Posted by RT on 8/17/2002, 12:09 pm , in reply to "Re: What will a basic training day consist of will there be times of going to bed around 9pm"
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It all depends on what training is going on..sometimes, later in the cycle, you'll be in the field, or have night ranges and you'll get zero sleep! But generally, you will be in your sack anywhere from 8-9pm and get up at 4-430am. As the other poster mentioned, depending on how many are in your company, you could have fireguard once or twice a week (getting up in the middle of the night for one hour to patrol the halls..everyone in the company is rotated through this duty...two soldiers of the same sex to a one hour shift).
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