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Any truth to "Relaxin' Jackson" Posted by dave truitt on 3/6/2002, 11:26 am 64.26.69.130 I've heard from numerous sources that who the basic content of Basic is the same no matter where you go, the intensity does differ. For example, I've been told that the BT Posts that train Combat Arms soldiers (like Benning and Knox) are much more intense than a Post like Ft. Jackson, which trains a lot of admin soldiers. In fact, someon told me Benning is only a little less intense than USMC Training Depot at Parris Island. On the other hand, I was told by one Ft. Jackson soldier that his weekends consisted of watching movies, going to concerts, and some "Drill Sergeart Time." I posed this question a while back on the go.army.com recruit chat and, of course, their answer is the standard line: "all basic training is the same...no difference whatsoever between benning and jackson." But soldiers who have been to both the difference is like night and day. Any thougths or commetns? Re: Any truth to "Relaxin' Jackson" Posted by Matt on 3/6/2002, 5:13 pm , in reply to "Any truth to "Relaxin' Jackson"" 204.186.228.35 Hey Dave, I've heard it's much easier at Ft Jackson, and I saw something that said drill sargeant time after supper for like an hour of two, on an army website i think, somewhere i saw it. I'm goin to Jackson June 10th. Matt Re: Any truth to "Relaxin' Jackson" Posted by Dave Truitt on 3/6/2002, 9:51 pm , in reply to "Re: Any truth to "Relaxin' Jackson"" 64.26.90.22 Hi Matt:Jackson's where I'm going, too. Thanks why I was interested. I'll also be a Jackson for AIT. I chated online with a recent Jackson basic grad and he said the "Drill Sageant Time" is just like where the DS gives you advice and cousels you and works on things that he thinks the platoon needs to work on. Feel free to email me if you care to. Re: Any truth to "Relaxin' Jackson" Posted by Raquel on 3/7/2002, 3:14 pm , in reply to "Re: Any truth to "Relaxin' Jackson"" 204.119.242.160 Yes, drill sergeant time is exactly that..it's not time for you to hang out and do whatever you please, it is a structured time used by your drill sergeants to train you in those odds and ends, to counsel you (and to reinforce what you have learned up til then). Benning is an Infantry post so naturally training there will be more intense...doesn't mean though that the other posts will be "easier"...you will find a different level of "strictness" not only throughout the posts but even within the battalions and companies..this will depend on the motivation, quality and dedication of the leadership, cadre and drill sergeants in each individual company. Re: Any truth to "Relaxin' Jackson" Posted by JOEY on 3/7/2002, 10:52 pm , in reply to "Re: Any truth to "Relaxin' Jackson"" 205.188.193.41 BASUCK IS BASUCK...REMEMBER...THIS IS BASIC TRAINING..STRESSS THE BASIC EVERYONE MUST GO THROUGH IT...EVEN THE COOKS LAUNDRY PEOPLE AND NON COMBAT...ITS CHALENGING BUT YOU CAN DO IT... uniform fitting in basic/hometown recruiter duty Posted by dave truitt on 3/6/2002, 11:07 am 64.26.69.130 just the other day, i ran into some guys who had just graduated basic and ait and where working in my recruiter's officer on a program called "hometown recruiter duty." The first observation i had was that these guys where very nice and more than happy to talk about their experience in basic and ait. I did notice that their "class b" unis did not seem to fit very well. Do they do any tailoring/alterations to your class A&B unis in basic, or is it, "you look like you take a 38 long jacket...here you go." My second part of the ? is how do you get "Hometown Recruiter duty?"It seems like a cool program. Could it potentially help your career?Any thoughts would be appreciated Re: uniform fitting in basic/hometown recruiter duty Posted by Raquel on 3/6/2002, 11:31 am , in reply to "uniform fitting in basic/hometown recruiter duty" 204.119.243.11 A few weeks before graduation, you are fitted (yes by tailors and seamstresses) into your Class A/B uniforms. They take those two weeks to complete all the alterations before you graduate. It's possible that these graduates either lost or gained weight. As far as the Hometown Recruiter Program, you can read more about it below: Link: Army's Hometown Recruiter Program Some additional thoughts Posted by Dave Truitt on 3/6/2002, 10:10 am 64.26.69.130 Thanks Raquel and Joe for their comments about the conduct of some of the recruiters and meps people. (by the way, Raquel, I bought your book via amazon.com...haven't gotten it yet). I know our Army is indeed the world's finest...we have the best trained, best equipted, best feed soldiers in the world. I'm not in any way saying the Army is a bad choice. It clearly has ALOT to offer. I just think with all this talk about "core values," should be more than just talk...people should be living them. That includes men behaving like gentlemen in the presence of young women. I mean, some of these guys who were makng the lewd comments were old enough to be the fathers of these young women. Would they want "dirty old men" making such comments about THEIR daughters? Anyway, I didn't mean to slam the entire US ARMY, only to point of that problems do exist (and I guess in in an organization with over 500,000 members that can only be expected. I may write a letter to the MEPS commander becasue in our initial briefing, he said something to the effect: "I expect you to treat my soliders, sailor, airmen, and marines with respect, dignity and coutesey; in return, you have every right to expect the same from us. If you do not get it, please let me know." Hope that was more than just lip service. Are MOS's secured at MEPS? Posted by Randal on 3/6/2002, 2:56 am 66.69.204.70 I'm about to enlist, but everyone tells me that regardless of what they say at MEPS, they can send you where ever they feel like it. Everyone says,"get it in writing!" But can't they still screw you even if it is in writing? I am getting a Ranger contract, but does that mean that I will be secured this MOS, or at least the oppurtunity to try out for it? Re: Are MOS's secured at MEPS? Posted by Raquel on 3/6/2002, 8:20 am , in reply to "Are MOS's secured at MEPS?" 204.119.245.205 Well, a contract is a contract. The Army is obligated to give you that MOS! Now, you may run into a situation where you will not be able to continue on in that MOS. Let me give you an example...let's say a soldier has some obscure MOS (something not run of the mill) and for some reason, between the time he enlists and the time he finishes basic training, the availability is no longer there for that MOS. The soldier will then be given a choice, he can either reclassify into another MOS he is qualified for OR he can choose to "go home" with no strings attached. I'd say this happening is rare though, I've only had it happen three times in my company with the thousands of trainees that came through in a year. As far as the Ranger Contract, no it does not guarantee you a slot in Ranger School. If you go to the "Links of Knowledge" you will find some info about this at the bottom of the page. Re: Are MOS's secured at MEPS- Yes and No Posted by Andy on 3/17/2002, 11:51 pm , in reply to "Re: Are MOS's secured at MEPS?" 141.155.44.91 My chosen MOS is 46R (Broadcast Journalist) which also involves a voice audition. My reservation was secured through MEPS, but Ft. Meade had the final say as to my attending Defense Information School. I did not meet minimum standards on my first audition. This made for some some stressed out weeks, but on my second reading I was accepted. Leaving for Ft. Knox 4/17, and enter AIT at Ft. Meade DINFOS 7/15 for thirteen weeks. Cheers! Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel Posted by Dave Truitt on 3/5/2002, 9:53 pm 64.26.90.56 The Army kinda has an image problem with me. You know, when you are thinking about enlisting the first impressions of the miliatry you get are: 1) from your recruiter and 2) the MEPS personnel. Here are a few example of unprofessional conduct I've personally witnessed at the MEPS in Laurel, Maryland. 1) 0400, me and my reruiter on our way to MEPS via recruiters govt verhicle, recruiter makes numerous PERSONAL calls on govt cell phone, including one to his girlfriend. They start fighting over the phone, recruiter screaming at his girlfriend, using a lot fo profanity. 2) recruiter and meps personnel make lewd comments about attractive female applicants, again using profanity. 3) recruiters and meps personnel use the "F" word like they get a hundred bucks every time they say it. recruiters and meps personnel...many of them grossly overweight...one looked like "java the hut" from the Star Wars movies. I'm no prude, but I think a professional, military bearing precludes ALL of the above mentioned behavior. Interestigly, almost all of this behavior was from ARMY people...didn't see any of it from the Marines, AF, or Navy. All Army. The other side.... Posted by Sarah F. on 3/7/2002, 7:01 am , in reply to "Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel" 207.75.176.32 Just for the record, I was processed through Detroit MEPS and have to say that I had a great time -- all the people in uniform were incredibly helpful and courteous. A few civilians could have been more "customer-service" oriented, let's say, but I didn't see them as reflecting on the Armed Services at all. I also have to say that my recruiter has been nothing but incredibly helpful and friendly, forthcoming and informative (unlike my husband's recruiter for the Air National Guard, but that's another story!). Sgt. Meads has always been respectful and generally a great person to be around. I'm stationed in the building from which he recruits, and I still go down and say hi during every drill. So they're not all bad.-Sarah F. Re: Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel Posted by Kevin Stansfield on 3/6/2002, 7:16 pm , in reply to "Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel" 207.160.126.19 Dave, When I read your post regarding your experiences at the MEPS I swore I was reading a story about my own experiences. I too have been very disappointed in the professionalism and performance of US Army Recruiters and the staff members of the MEPS. I knew things were not going to go as expected when my Recruiter addressed me as "DOG", and other Recruiters mentally undressed my girlfriend as we stood in the lobby, on my first visit. My first trip to the MEPS was not what I expected. I arrived to take my ASVAB and began taking the test. Halfway through, I paused the test and ask for a second piece of paper, as instructed. When the proctor restarted the test, he shut the computer off. When he tried to restart it and cover his error a LT appeared and questioned the situation. He blamed me and said I shut it off and restarted the test (Impossibleit requires a password) So, I got to take the ASVAB twice in one evening. After spending a night in a motel, where the Management treated us like a bunch of convicted criminals, I arrived for my physical. During the briefing, the staff member used "ghetto slang" in explaining the upcoming day, and acted like she could not stay awake. Maybe it was her T-shirt and sweatpants that she wore are to blame. The physical started a few hours later, and that's where my expectations were destroyed. During the vision test, I politely informed the staff member I needed a depth perception test as part of my MOS/Enlistment Option. She "huffed", refused to explain the directions, and quickly gave me the test. I flunked. Knowing I had just passed a civilian depth perception test, I ask for it to be given to me again. She hatefully refused, and yelled for me to go set down. I refused. I then ask a second staff member present to give me the test. He stopped talking about his weekend of drinking and acted like he was mad. The first staff member heard my request and yelled "Sh*t, he done flunked dat test once." Now the second staff member refused to give me the test. Finally I was able to talk to someone who explained the directions and administered the test. I passed with a perfect score. When the first test administrator heard my results she cussed and mumbled something as she stared at me. The Doctors then came out and started their questioning of our medical records. I was shocked that Doctors could be so hateful and rude in such a relaxed environment. Q: "Do you have any broken bones"? A: "Yes, I broke my left arm in 1999". A: "I didn't ask when you broke it, BUD!" That's the Doctor I got, all of the others could hardly speak enough English to understand what they were saying. Within the Army office, was another shocker compared to what I expected. There were people sleeping on the floor while others laid across a few seats watching TV. Recruiters were standing around laughing, joking and cussing to the point it was obnoxious. The civilian office manager allowed a recruit to answer phones, transfer calls and work on their computer systems, while he spoke for hours about how he'd like to have his way with Janet Jackson. (He was wearing pink pants and a yellow shirt unbuttoned to his navel.) I also listened as an Army Career Counselor laughed and told a recruit, just as she signed his DEP paperwork, "See ya, wouldn't want to be ya". To finish it all off, my Recruiter dumped me at the MEPS on our second trip, so she could go shopping in the nearby city. I ended up waiting for four hours for her to return. However, I got what I wanted out of the MEPS and my recruiters. I have been accepted into the MOS that I wanted, and will leave for basic soon. I can say, as others have pointed to, that not all military installations are like the MEPS. Part of my process required me to go to Ft. Rucker, Alabama and do some testing. I must add that the Army staff members within that base were the most professional, curious and helpful I've ever seen. At that time I made a promise to myself to be a part of that type of Army, not the type of Army I saw at the MEPS. Besides, who really wants to join the Army and end up working at the MEPS or as a Recruiter. Please don't use my experiences to pre-judge the MEPS, but if you have experiences that parallel mine, know that you are not alone. I assure you that everything I mentioned about is true. So, get what you want from the MEPS and it's staff, ask questions, and if you don't get excellence..demand it. Re: Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel Posted by Dave Truitt on 3/7/2002, 1:14 pm , in reply to "Re: Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel" 64.26.68.154 Kevin: Believe it or not, my recruiter also adresseses me as "Dog." And he speaks in a language which I don't always understand. Now, don't get me wrong, I know everyone has their own culture and there is not a thing wrong with that. But for a black recruiter to speak in "ebonics" (i think that's the word) and expect a white recruit from a very rural area to know what he talking about is a bit unrealistic. In a more general context, I think the Army has a problem with its public perception. When I told my friends I was joining the Army, they were, like, "Why? Couldn't you get into the Marines or Air Force?" Right or wrong, that is the way a lot of folks see it: The Marines gets the gung ho, ahteletes; the Navy and AF get the guys with the brains for the technical stuff, and the Army gets the leftovers, the guys who couldn't get in to the other services. I'm not saying I agree, I'm just saying that is the public perception. One thing that I know for sure is that the Army HAS to offer all of these extra enlistment incentives (Enlistment bonus, guranteeed MOS and choice of station, Army Coll fund, ect, advanced rank for coll credits/degree, etc) because--all things being equal--they would have a hard time competing with the other services. Could be wrong...just my opinion Re: Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel Posted by Raquel on 3/6/2002, 8:14 am , in reply to "Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel" 204.119.245.205 Sounds like there is no good officer leadership in either the MEPS or your recruiting center...true, NCOs should know better and be professional in their work....yep, we do have some duds in the Army that just don't seem to get it, and I'm sorry that your first impression is of the duds. Depending on how strongly you feel about this, once you are gone and off in basic, I would certainly write a letter addressed directly to the commanding officer (ATTN: Commander of "name of unit" or better yet, use the officer's name) of the MEPS and the recruiting battalion. If the officers are worth anything, heads will roll. This behavior (at both the MEPS and the recruiting office) is grossly unacceptable! Re: Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel Posted by Joe on 3/5/2002, 10:06 pm , in reply to "Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel" 208.16.251.5 There are good and bad people in all every branch just as there are good and bad in all walks of life. You cannot judge a entire group by the actions of a few. Thats like thinking that a few kids who dress different then others are representative of all people from the ages of 13 and 18. It is unfortunate that you had such an experience but perhaps the reason you only saw this from the Army personal was because you weren't speaking with AF, Marines, CG or Navy people? Not to say it is right but these people have a pretty hectic time putting up with dozens upon dozens of new faces on a daily basis that don't have a clue of what they are doing. And for the record, its "Jabba" the Hutt ;P Give the Army a chance, I spent a few months deciding what branch would be best, and after a lot of research I ended up as a current DEP'er for the world's finest Army. I look forward to serving with you. Re: Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel Posted by Kataratos on 3/6/2002, 11:20 am , in reply to "Re: Unprofessional conduct by recruiters/meps personnel" 152.163.213.73 When I went through meps, everyone was pretty proffessional at the one I went through. But, there are things that kinda bothered me, too.Like, my recruiter calls every female "babe". He doesn't mean anything by it or even realize he does it...but it can be somewhat unnerving. And the MEPs people and my recruiter were teasing me and giving me a real hard time about some stuff, that I was serious about. But, I just chalked it up to my being at the bottom of the totem pole. If you want to do something, do it, and don't let anyone stop you. If you want to be in the Army, don't let a few jerks keep you out. bad meps experience Posted by dave truitt on 3/5/2002, 6:10 pm 64.26.68.168 well, i get up at 0400hrs this morning and driving an hour to meet up with my recruiter so we can be at meps on time. I was supposed to process this past Friday, but had a problem with paperwork. You see, I had origianlly processed for the Army back in Nov of 2001, was qualified but did not sign a contract because they could not get me the job I wanted, so I contacted the Navy and had all of my meps records "Spiffted"(recruiter's jargon) to the Navy but the Navy DQed me because of a vision problem that the Army had already granted me a waiver for. Of course, the Navy recruiter told me that since the Army had granted me a waiver for the condition (a temporary eye infection from wearing contacts) there would be no reason the Navy wouldn't too. Wrong! Navy Recruiting Command denied waiver, even with knowledge that Army had granted it. So, back I go to the Army. My recruiter told me to take day off work last Friday to process and the "spiff" would be done. It was not and I wasted a vaction day. Recruiter called me back and said, "Tuesday is a definate..the "spiff" is done...you'll have no problem." I get up a 0400 only to find out "spiff" wasn't done. Recruiter blamed MEPS, MEPS blamed recruiter...I lose another day from work...for nothing. And to top it all off, a MEPS personnel said to me, "it's you're own fault...if you hadn't had your record switched to the Navy none of this would have happened." True enough...but MEPS people are supposed to know how to do these basic things. They definately dropped the ball...kinda makes you wonder: if this is what the Army is like, do i really want to be a part of such an organization?" Re: bad meps experience Posted by Raquel on 3/6/2002, 8:07 am , in reply to "bad meps experience" 204.119.245.205 Please don't judge the entire Army by this one incident. Yes, you will occasionally deal with folks who seem to have no brain (just like in the civilian world), but as a whole, the Army is not like this:-)) Good luck! Tell your recruiter to let you know when the paperwork is done and then you'll come in to process. BAH Posted by Sam on 3/5/2002, 4:57 pm 65.205.1.140 Raquel,Just wanted to let you know that I just joined the ARNG. I am in DEP, ship out Feb. 10, '03. Going to basic at 31 will be interesting. My question is, when I go to BT at Fort Benning, MOS 11B, will BAH pay be at the rate of Fort Benning or where my wife lives in Northern Virginia. My recruiter did not know the answer and I have searched all over About.com and Military.com. By the way, your book is very good. Re: BAH Posted by Raquel on 3/6/2002, 8:04 am , in reply to "BAH" 204.119.245.205 Make sure you tell your recruiter to check out the following website below that lists the policies and procedures of military pay, page down to #26, BAH (Basic Allowance for Housing). He should really know these things. If you go to that PDF Document, pg. 26-49, you will see in the chart there on #29: "newly enlisted members with dependents BAH rate will be determined at the location of the dependents". Link: http://www.dtic.mil/comptroller/fmr/07a/index.html Medical conditions at basic Posted by Kataratos on 3/5/2002, 2:02 pm 205.188.193.161 I sometimes get skin spots (raised red spots on my arms that look a little like ringworm and itch) when I'm overexposed to sun or stress. They have never been diagnosed as a doctor as anything. They are not harmful, just a nuisance. If I break out at Basic, it won't keep me from performing, so is it one of those things where if I don't say anything, they won't either? Or is this something they would make a big deal out of? Also, could I take benadryl or cortizone cream with for this. OR would that be a bad idea? Re: Medical conditions at basic Posted by Raquel on 3/6/2002, 7:43 am , in reply to "Medical conditions at basic" 204.119.245.205 Again, I am no doctor, just speaking from what I have seen, so don't take what I have to say as medical advice or the gospel! I see no problem with you going to the medical clinic and getting cortizone or something to make it more comfortable (or medications for any other temporary condition..that's what it is there for). We have had other recruits who had the same condition, and they were able to continue to train (and stay in basic. I think this sort of thing you could characterize as a temporary condition. Graduation Posted by Haley on 3/5/2002, 11:48 am 129.130.217.22 I'm thinking about going to Fort Leonard Wood for my boyfriend's Basic Training graduation, and I was wondering if I'll be able to spend any time with him other than just seeing him at the ceremony. I've heard that only immediate family members can "sign out" the soldiers for the day. Do I count, or can my boyfriend somehow ask that he be able to leave with me for awhile? Thanks! Re: Graduation Posted by Raquel on 3/6/2002, 7:40 am , in reply to "Graduation" 204.119.245.205 Some companies (or actually battalions..the entity in charge of a group of companies) may be more strict than others. But I can tell you that companies do have a host of activities planned the day and evening before graduation morning..time that you can spend with your boyfriend (on post). There will either be a banquet or picnic you can attend with your boyfriend that afternoon or evening. As far as going off post, chances of that happening are slim unless his family is present. We want to minimize the chances of the kids getting into trouble:-)) If your boyfriend has no family present who can sign him out, then he will have to come back to the barracks at a designated time (usually 11pm). WE do get a lot of families though who come, and also bring the girlfriend. Maybe this is an option for you? glasses Posted by Q on 3/5/2002, 12:43 am 205.188.201.208 i need to wear glasses to see like street signs when i drive but other then that i see everything else fine. i assume when i get my eye exam they'll issue me a pair of glasses, will i be "required" to wear them all the time, or is it possibly to wear them only when necessary? thank you for any responses Re: glasses Posted by Raquel on 3/5/2002, 9:35 am , in reply to "glasses" 204.119.245.158 You sound like me! I have the same eyesight. Again, I'm no expert on eyes, but one thing that you may want to think about is that you should probably get used to wearing glasses most of the time (I don't think anyone will be hounding you to keep them on but it will be in your best interest to do so). I say this mostly because of rifle qualification. It is such a critical event that you must pass and you want to make sure your eyes get adjusted to your glasses and you get used to wearing them on your face (they are heavier than most glasses). Things can get pretty tense on the line and you want to have all the advantages you can get before then. paying bills while in basic and ait Posted by Dave Truitt on 3/4/2002, 9:40 pm 64.26.90.42 Well, in a few hours i'm off to meps (my recruiter is picking me up at 0400 I had the option of staying the hotel, but too much partying goes on there for my tastes). Anyway, since I have to get up so early, I probably won't sleep much tonight which means I'll be surfing the net and thinking of a million different questions that relate to being in the military. One ? I have involves paying your bills. I, unfortunately, have quite a few due each month. Can I set up some type of system whereby each month my bills are just automatically deducted from my military pay? That would be the best for me. I think you HAVE to set up a direct deposit account when you arrive at Basic but I was wondering about the bills. Re: paying bills while in basic and ait Posted by Raquel on 3/5/2002, 10:14 am , in reply to "paying bills while in basic and ait" 204.119.243.233 Yes, you can set up to have deductions taken from your paycheck. Most folks set up these deductions for their investments (a set amount every month, let's say to a mutual fund). I would suggest though, not to "mess" too much with your paycheck..you don't want too many things going on there. I would suggest rather going through your bank (wherever you choose to do your direct deposit) and paying bills through whatever program they have...much easier to keep track of and much easier to fix if something goes wrong. I don't want to say anything negative about the Army Finance System, but when things do go wrong, it sometimes takes a few visits (and piles of paperwork) to get things set right...just speaking from experience:-)) pets & the army Posted by Dave Truitt on 3/4/2002, 9:29 pm 64.26.90.42 I had a questions about having pets in the military (army, in particular). I have a 10 year old cat who is very very special to me. I am currently single. I asked my recruiter about this and he said something like, "we'll I don't think you're supposed to have any pets in the dorms, but they don't inspect them like they used to," the implication being I could probably "get away with" having a small pet. On the go.army.com recruiter chat, I posed the same ? and the online recruiters said flat out "no" If you are a single enlisted person, living in government quarters, you can not under any circumstances have ANY pets (no even a goldfish!). But, the recruiter said, if you are married you can, even if you live in a government house on base. This doesn't seem very fair...a real double standard if you ask me. Is it possible to get permission to live off base, in an apartment that allows pets if you are single. My recruiter said going in as an e-4 would probably allow me to do this. But I've also heard that they only way a single enlisted person can live off base is if there is no housing available on base. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated Re: pets & the army Posted by Raquel on 3/5/2002, 9:20 am , in reply to "pets & the army" 204.119.245.158 Unfortunately, the recruiter online is right...absolutely no pets in the barracks or the single soldiers quarters. You will have weird hours and be deployed often, and this would be unfair for the pet. There may be some instances where you can live off-post, again if the single soldier housing is not available on post, but you won't see that too often. Most times you will be required to live on-post. I have known some higher enlisted soldiers (NCOs) who would have a dog or cat, but they are authorized to live off-post in most cases and sometimes they will get another NCO as a roommate...but again, it creates problems when it is time to PCS (move), and I've known quite a few that had to give up their pets to move. Hopefully, you can find a relative or very good friend who would be willing to care for your cat...I know it's heartbreaking, but you have to look what's best for the animal. Recruiters who know less than their recruits Posted by Dave Truitt on 3/4/2002, 8:26 pm 64.26.90.42 I know a recruiter can't be expected to know everything right off the top of his head, but I've dealt with some who didn't know much (if anything) about some basic things. For example, I had done my research and knew that, as a college grad, I qualified to enter the army as an e-4 and receive a "higrad" bonus of 8k. When I mentioned these things to a recruiter, he was, like, "I'll have to look that up...I've never heard of that before." Recruiters are very coy about the whole enlistment bonus thing. When you ask them whether a certain MOS has a bonus that comes with it, they usually say, "Ah, only MEPS knows." Not entirely true. The info is on the net, if you know where to look. Even when you go to the Army's website and login to the "recruiter chat" they throw back questions about EBs like they were hand granades. I think the whole idea must be that only MEPS can actually award the EBs and therefore they are the only ones that should discuss it with applicants, but I think the "play dumb" policy that Army recruiting has adopted probably causes them to lose some good applicants. living conditions after basic and AIT Posted by Dave Truitt on 3/4/2002, 12:21 pm 64.26.69.131 Hi: I am enlisting in the army (probably tomarrow if I can get the time off work). I am going in as an E-4 (Spec) because I have a BA degree. My MOS will be 71mike (Chap Assistant) and I'll probably be assigned to Ft. Irwin, CA. My question: I know in Basic and AIT, you live in a dorm environment. But when I get to Irwin, what kind of accomadations can I expect. Will being an E-4 make a difference. I am currently single. Any info would be appreciated You can read about all Army bases at this site... Posted by Raquel on 3/4/2002, 3:50 pm , in reply to "living conditions after basic and AIT" 204.119.242.138 You can read about Ft Irwin, CA (Home of the National Training Center) and other bases around the world at the website below. This is what the housing office had to say about housing for lower enlisted single soldiers under "Choose a Topic" and then "Housing": "Bonafide bachelors, E-6 and below, will receive a barracks assignment from the company to which they are assigned. There are presently 1578 permanent barracks spaces. Additionally, there are several renovated buildings which are utilized as temporary barracks spaces." I know that doesn't sound too promising. I can tell you that the Army has extensively renovated single soldiers living quarters into more dorm-like settings, with usually a person to a room, two soldiers sharing a bathroom. I'm not sure what the status is at Ft Irwin..can't find any reference on the internet. I would try going to www.military.com, the Army discussion boards there and asking for any single soldiers who have been stationed there and ask what housing is like. I'm sure you'll get lots of responses. Link: Military Installations Practice asvab Posted by question on 3/3/2002, 9:22 pm 216.21.175.17 is there a practice ASVAB online? or anywhere? are there ways to study for it? thnaks Re: Practice asvab Posted by Raquel on 3/4/2002, 8:15 am , in reply to "Practice asvab" 204.119.243.193 The only one I know of online is the one located at Military.com below. I think someone from this board completed it and scored well..think you have to give out some info to take it though. Let us know how it goes. Link: Practice ASVAB at Military.com Rank in BT Posted by Dave on 3/3/2002, 9:14 pm 216.21.175.17 how is rank established in BT, how do you earn it? how high can you go in BT? Enlisted Promotions. Posted by Raquel on 3/4/2002, 8:08 am , in reply to "Rank in BT" 204.119.243.193 Rank really has nothing to do with BT...you serve in whatever rank you came into the Army with, depending on your contract (from Private to Specialist)...lots of factors can determine your rank when you come in, such as being a Recruiter's Aide, signing up other recruits, college credits, etc.. Once in BT, the company commander does have the authority upon graduation to promote a small percentage of you to PV2. Here are the criteria for enlisted promotions as per Army Regulation 600-8-19 "Enlisted Promotions": These promotions are pretty much automatic, provided that you are fully qualified to serve in the next grade and you are not flagged or barred from re-enlisting. Promotion to PV2 requires 6 months time in servicePromotion to PFC requires 12 months time in service and 4 months time in grade (meaning you must be a PV2 for at least 4 months)Promotion to SPC requires 26 months time in service and 6 months time in grade A unit commander can elect not to recommend you to be promoted and all he has to do is submit the paperwork for that and you won't be promoted. The Army Regulation for Enlisted Promotions is located below: Link: AR 600-8-19 Enlisted Promotions Can someone help me here? Posted by Joe on 3/3/2002, 5:52 pm 205.188.193.24 does anyone know whre i can go online to find out a list of all the reserve units in a certain area...for isntance im joinin the reserves and im still decindin with recruiter about the MOS ans its gonna have to be a unit in florida some where but i need a list of all the availible uits down there can someone help me our please...thanks... Re: Can someone help me here? Posted by Raquel on 3/3/2002, 8:55 pm , in reply to "Can someone help me here?" 204.119.243.37 Joe, At the Reserves website, I could only find two Reserve units in Florida..see link below to see where they have soldiers. Link: Reserve units in FL Online... Posted by Raquel on 3/3/2002, 9:01 pm , in reply to "Re: Can someone help me here?" 204.119.243.37 ..think those may only be the ones online. Of course you know it has to do with which MOS you choose, as to where the Reserve units are located. I don't think there is one comprehensive site that would list all MOSs and where the units are located. You could try going to www.google.com and typing in whatever MOS you are interested in, then "army", "reserve" and "FL" or "Florida". I did get some units to come up that way. Good luck. Re: Online... Posted by Kataratos on 3/4/2002, 11:16 am , in reply to "Online..." 205.188.193.169 If you are interested in Reserves...I can't help but throw in a little plug for National Guard... MP basic and AIT Posted by WannabeMP on 2/28/2002, 2:23 pm 216.21.175.17 Ok, I have found lots of info on the requirements for MOS 95B but i want to know what its gonna be like so i am well prepared. Can anyone tell me what Ft. lenordwood is like? Does BT differ here than others as it is OSUT, will everyone in my platoon be in ait with me? what can i expect? Has any one been or going? what goes on in AIT for MP? I am 24 and am probably going in late summer/fall to Ft. Lenordwood, i need to drop 15 lbs. and am doing nicely at it. So i plan to go around then. Any info would be helpful. Also i have heard that the older in BT are more likely to become Squad leader, ect.... is this true, i am sure that maturity and proformance in BT plays a part. Thanks for any info. Re: MP basic and AIT Posted by Raquel on 3/4/2002, 9:11 am , in reply to "MP basic and AIT" 204.119.242.225 I was hoping someone would answer your post who has attended OSUT at Ft Wood. You can find more info on the OSUT MP course by clicking the link below to get to the MP School and then follow the links for MP Courses. You can read there what is taught in the Basic, as well as AIT portion of the course. OSUT has the same schedule as any BT company...same curriculum. The only difference will be that your drill sergeants will be MPs, so will gear you towards the MOS early. You won't have to shift to another company (or post) and will stay with the same group of drill sergeants and recruits in your company (that could be good or bad, depending on how well you are getting along). As far as Ft Wood itself. It is a typical training post. It's sometimes called Ft Lost in the Woods..it is in the middle of a National Forest with no large towns or cities in the area. The weather is great in the early Fall...an ideal time to go to training there I think...poison ivy is starting to die then and less bugs, no sun beating down on you or frigid Artic-like winds...just right (most of the time). Yes, most of the older recruits tended to be more mature. Drill sergeants always look for responsible and mature individuals to act as squad leaders and platoon guides. So, yes it can seem that older recruits seem to fill a lot of these positions, but really anyone who is responsible and mature (and motivated) can do it. These positions will rotate throughout the cycle. Link: MP School Uiforms Posted by Jp on 2/27/2002, 4:34 pm 24.47.53.68 hi i have a question...do you recieve anything similar to dress blues in the army..aside for the greens i wanted to know if the army had their own dress blue uniform and if its issued bought or if you know anywhere online where there is a picture of this uniform..thanks Army Dress Blue Uniform Posted by Raquel on 2/28/2002, 8:35 am , in reply to "Uiforms" 204.119.245.92 You receive your Class As issued (the green uniform)...with a white shirt and some additions, it is authorized for formal functions. Whether you are officer or enlisted, you must pay for your Dress Blues. Yes, they are pretty expensive. Most enlisted personnel don't even buy these until they are at least NCOs, and higher ranking ones at that...BUT they do look sharp, and I've certainly seen a few Specialists wearing them here and there for official functions. Marlow White is the premier place to get them special ordered (at least for officers). See the link below to see a photo (the coat looks black in the pic, but it is dark blue). Then imagine wearing a light blue for the pants. There is also the Army Dress Mess Jacket which looks even sharper (and twice as expensive)...you rarely see anyone other than Colonels and Generals wearing these, although I have seen Command Sergeant Majors wearing them also. Photos also at the website below. Link: Marlow White Dress Blues bathroom Posted by Joe on 2/27/2002, 4:32 pm 24.47.53.68 hey i have a question, im goin to basic this june and i have a few questions...one is i have ibs or irratable bowel syndrome or in other words shit pains...and sometimes they have gotten pretty bad..but its noting that cant be cured by some quality time on the bowl...now i was wondering exactly how the DS and will take to this...i mean its hard to function with these pains and im a little nervous of this and the other thing is what are the bathroom facilites like...do they have stalls? or like full metal jacket are they just a buch of bowls in an open room and another question is the showering...are there shower stalls or is it one big room ..sounds gay i guess but i wanna know if im gona be showerin with alot of men and shittin wit them too...thanks alot Re: bathroom Posted by Raquel on 2/28/2002, 8:17 am , in reply to "bathroom" 204.119.245.92 With many medical conditions, stress sometimes makes them worse and in BT you will be under LOTS of stress, so this may have a negative effect on your IBS. On the positive side, strenuous exercise tends to calm down irritable bowels. The latrine facilities in the barracks are pretty simple. Yes, the toilets do have stalls..just like any public restroom. The showers consist of one large room with multiple showerheads. I know it's easy to feel apprehensive before you go, but believe me, you guys will be under so much stress and always rushing around, you won't even have time to think of these issues. Everyone around you is in the same boat and after awhile, you just get used to being around a lot of guys. Re: bathroom Posted by anonymous on 2/27/2002, 10:22 pm , in reply to "bathroom" 66.26.130.49 Dude if you are worried about priviacy then you dont even need to go. First of all if somebody is watching you take a shower or a shit then they are screwed up and if you are doing the same then your messed up to. Youll get in and out so fast anyway that it wont even matter. yeah the bathrooms are open no stalls. Dont worry about it man it aint no big deal just take your crap and get out nobody is going to stare you down Re: bathroom Posted by John on 2/27/2002, 5:23 pm , in reply to "bathroom" 165.235.122.19 don't worry too much about privacy because you will not have any. Also no one is going to really look at you doing your business as the as you looking at them. I've been in the "can" and when you gotta go you will GO! I have the same problem with Irritable BS at times but I cross my fingers that I go without discomfort but if I do then I just bare it. Re: bathroom Posted by anonymous on 2/27/2002, 5:19 pm , in reply to "bathroom" 199.253.174.9 i feel your concerns but i dont believe they are like that any more (full metal jacket). heading to benning springtime myself jury duty Posted by anonymous on 2/27/2002, 2:43 pm 199.253.174.9 while enlisted in the army - can you get called for jury duty. Re: jury duty Posted by Raquel on 2/28/2002, 8:10 am , in reply to "jury duty" 204.119.245.92 Short answer, no you are not exempt, BUT there can be some exceptions, read below: Army policy (in AR 27-40, chapter 10) implements Title 10, United States Code, section 982, and Department of Defense Directive 5525.8. Generally, active duty soldiers should fulfill their civic responsibility by serving on State and local juries, provided it does not interfere with their military duties. Army regulations do provide a blanket exemption from civilian jury service for general officers, commanders, trainees, and soldiers assigned overseas or to forces engaged in operations. Other active duty soldiers may be exempted from serving on local civilian juries if it would either: Interfere unreasonably with performance of the soldier's military duties. Affect adversely the readiness of a summoned soldier's unit, command, or activity. Lastly, if a soldier is called to jury duty, he can go to the legal office (JAG) onpost and get the paperwork for exemption if any of the situations apply above. Fort Benning Posted by Tom on 2/27/2002, 2:26 pm 66.19.49.164 I am leaving for Basic a week from today. I will be sent to Fort Benning though I am not in an Infiltry MOS. My MOS is 91W, a medic, though everyone I talk to say that Benning is by far the hardest Basic. One former Army enlisted I talked to said that someone must not have liked me because they brutalized the recruits at Benning. I was wondering if there was any truth to this rumor. Thanks for all your help. Re: Fort Benning Posted by Ed on 2/28/2002, 7:22 pm , in reply to "Fort Benning" 64.12.101.184 Listen here Tom, I personally have been to FT. Benning to conduct Basic training and Infantry training.I also have hear the Benning is the hardest however I think that all the army installations are hard. They call FT Jackson "relaxin jackson"Even though your mos is not infantry it will still be tough. You will be with other trainees of "BCT" (basic combat training) rather than "ITB" (infantry training brigade). You may encounter female drill sergeants. Believe me, I have seen them and let me tell you they are very mean. I am very gun-ho infantry however 91W is the only other mos besides infantry that I have a deep respect for. most medics are highly decorated soldiers that risk their lives for fellow soldiers. Let me tell you this though, they don't brutalize you, not even in the infantry. Always remember that it wouln't look good for the Army to have privates die in training. They take care of you. Reguardless of what you may think when you are there they take care of you. Just do what you are told, don't be first and don't be last, stay blended in with everyone else. It is good if the drill sergeant doesn't know you by name. Pushups/situps/Run Posted by Charles on 2/26/2002, 8:06 pm 205.188.198.178 Do you know the exact qualifications for the final PT test of basic. Not the initial assesment, but actually the final test of pushups, situps, and mile run?? Thanks guys Re: Pushups/situps/Run Posted by Michael Lewandowski on 2/26/2002, 11:26 pm , in reply to "Pushups/situps/Run" 130.49.72.197 You need to score a min. of 50 points on each event for Basic. 60 points on each event for AIT. The number of pushups/situps/run time you need to achieve is determined by your age group. Go to this link to figure out the numbers you need: http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arfitness/blarfitness.htm Link: http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arfitness/blarfitness.htm IET pay and D-deposit Posted by john alvarez on 2/26/2002, 12:59 pm 165.235.122.19 I'm already getting paid for drills I've attended prior to leaving to basic (ARNG)and I was wondering since I have gotten paid for drills do I need to redo anything once I get get to Basic. Such as the bank form for direct deposit or once I'm in the "system" I don't need to anything further in terms of pay and basic? Re: IET pay and D-deposit Posted by Raquel on 2/27/2002, 7:33 am , in reply to "IET pay and D-deposit" 204.119.245.83 I'm sure they'll go over everything to make sure your stuff is in order, plus of course the banks on post will still make their "plug" to try to get you as a customer:-)) hair Posted by kim on 2/25/2002, 6:04 pm 63.202.174.120 i dye my hair blonde. i was wondering if i should dye it back to my natural color(dark brown) for basic training. i leave in a week. let me know. thanks Re: hair Posted by anonymous on 2/25/2002, 10:07 pm , in reply to "hair" 205.188.199.159 my hair is very long, to the top of my butt. should i cut it before basic? how hard is it to keep it to standards when it's that long? To answer both your questions.. Posted by Raquel on 2/26/2002, 8:30 am , in reply to "Re: hair" 204.119.245.144 If you dye your hair now, be advised that you won't be able to touch it up while in basic. It's up to you what you want to do before hand. No one will say a word if "your roots are showing". As far as long hair. It will be a huge pain in the..well you get the idea! You will have to braid it and cannot leave it in a ponytail. You'll then have to tuck it under somehow, plus it cannot interfere with any of your headgear. You will have to have it at least above the bottom collar of your shirt ALWAYS..you can't keep it down or in a ponytail while in your PT uniform either. I had many a female recruit who suffered from headaches and didn't know why...come to find out it was almost always their hair (ie the pressure of the bun on the back of their head) that was causing it. Hair always grows back...it's worth it to cut it to have one less thing to worry about. 11b rucksacks Posted by Rob on 2/25/2002, 7:03 am 65.93.88.135 How much (roughly) do the ruck-sacks weigh for 11b infantrymen? Re: 11b rucksacks Posted by Raquel on 2/25/2002, 11:56 am , in reply to "11b rucksacks" 204.119.243.4 The weight of your rucksack will depend on what your mission is, as well as the timeframe of the mission. You could be travelling very light or you could be loaded down:-)) Just to give you an idea of what the standard is for the coveted Expert Infantryman's Badge, the standard is to roadmarch 12 miles in under 3 hrs with a 35 lb rucksack (in addition to your other standard equipment such as full canteens of water, rifle, kevlar helmet, etc..) You can read more about the Expert Infantryman's Badge below: Link: EIB Re: 11b rucksacks Posted by Ed on 2/28/2002, 7:31 pm , in reply to "Re: 11b rucksacks" 64.12.101.184 Roquel is right, it depends on your mission. More specifically it depends on METT-T (mission, enemy, troops, terrain, and time)I'm an 11B and most of the time you will have an SOP (Standard Operationing Procedure) for what the minimum requirements are to have packed in you ruck. example: a change of uniforms, wet weather gear ectExpert Infantry Badge had a timed test with a road march. Regular infantrymen can be marching from 5 to 10 to 20 miles, with a 30 to 50 lb. ruck. Basic & AIT pay Posted by Charles on 2/24/2002, 10:56 pm 152.163.204.179 Is the monthly pay you get at basic & AIT tax free? Or do you still have to pay taxes?Also, when you get your enlistment bonus, is that tax free as well. Thanks guys Re: Basic & AIT pay Posted by Joe on 2/25/2002, 5:34 am , in reply to "Basic & AIT pay" 208.16.251.5 We are soldiers, but we are also citizens so that means we have to pay our taxes like everyone else. What im curious is that I know everyone makes 1022 during basic, but does that remain there during AIT or do you jump to your pay grade once you get to AIT? Re: Basic & AIT pay Posted by Raquel on 2/25/2002, 5:47 am , in reply to "Re: Basic & AIT pay" 204.119.245.87 There may be certain situations (like when you get deployed to a specific area) where your pay will be tax-free but not BT and AIT! Your base pay goes by your rank...has nothing to do with when you go to a new school or duty assignment. Re: Basic & AIT pay Posted by Charles on 2/25/2002, 1:11 pm , in reply to "Re: Basic & AIT pay" 152.163.204.184 Do you know exactly what we have to pay taxes for during BCT & AIT. for example, do we have to pay state and federal taxes as well as any other taxes that may apply...thanks Re: Basic & AIT pay Posted by Raquel on 2/26/2002, 8:25 am , in reply to "Re: Basic & AIT pay" 204.119.245.144 You will pay Federal and State taxes (if you are a resident of a state that taxes). One neat thing about the military...you can basically "choose" which state you want to be a resident of...most people will register their cars, get a driver's license, etc..show that they plan to "settle" in that particular state...some stick with the state they were in before they entered the military. The tax rate I think would be around 12% I think, so figure that to be taken out for Federal taxes. You'll also have Social Security, Medicare, life insurance for yourself (and your spouse if you have one), dental (for your dependents) taken out of that paycheck also. Lying at MEPs Posted by no name on 2/23/2002, 2:35 pm 12.33.190.5 Some recruiters ask their recruits to lie at MEPS about past medical conditions. If it isn't severe like asthma, is it okay not to tell them about it? Re: Lying at MEPs Posted by Kataratos on 2/23/2002, 6:01 pm , in reply to "Lying at MEPs" 152.163.213.66 Don't lie...if specifically asked...if they check or find out about it you can get in a whole lot of trouble...but, you don't have to volunteer information. Diarrhea Posted by annonymous on 2/23/2002, 2:30 pm 12.33.190.5 Say you had to go to the bathroom...are they lenient on that? Or do you have to use the bathroom on their time? Re: Diarrhea Posted by Raquel on 2/23/2002, 6:58 pm , in reply to "Diarrhea" 204.119.243.41 You can't go to the latrine any time you please. You pretty much always have to ask permission depending on where you are. Of course, drill sergeants are experienced and they can tell if it's an emergency and will usually not give you a hard time in that case. Basic training Posted by Danca on 2/23/2002, 9:23 am 64.12.101.152 Do I have to take and pass the ASVAB test if I want to go ONLY through the Basic training?Thank youDanca Re: Basic training Posted by Raquel on 2/23/2002, 6:58 pm , in reply to "Basic training" 204.119.243.41 Not sure what you are asking. You take the ASVAB in order to assist the recruiter in getting the right MOS for you. Then you go thru basic training to get your initial soldier training before your MOS specific training (AIT - Advanced Individual Training). If you are looking for something to personally develop yourself and to make yourself mentally and physically fit (and to give you a challenge) there are many civilian programs out there that offer programs that emulate some of the training you receive in Army Basic Training. Is this what you mean? RANGER MAXIMS: The Truth About America's Elite US Army Airborne Rangers Posted by Dean Garner on 2/22/2002, 9:43 pm 168.191.244.78 Hello, All: Please stop by RangerMaxims.com for info on Airborne Rangers. When you're done reading the FAQ page, buy the book! Tell all your friends, too, especially those interested in becoming Rangers. Thanks in advance for your visit, and have a great career in the best Army on the planet! Rangers Lead the Way! Dean Garner Link: RANGER MAXIMS firewatch Posted by anonymous on 2/22/2002, 2:42 pm 199.253.174.9 During firewatch - if you do see someone out of their bunk - how should you approach - whats the chances that the person is going to listen to you - if he doesnt listen - can you take action Re: firewatch Posted by Raquel on 2/23/2002, 6:48 pm , in reply to "firewatch" 204.119.242.223 Sometimes people are on their way to the latrine, so this is obviously okay. You just have to be aware of where everyone is and make sure they are nowhere where they are not supposed to be. The drill sergeants also teach you how to deal with situations and intruders. after BT... Posted by Q on 2/22/2002, 1:08 pm 64.12.106.32 when BT is completed and we get sent out to be stationed somewhere, i saw the floor plans for the shared apartments... 1-do we have pay rent for those?2-if i am single do i have to share with someone?3-if so, is it coed or same-sex?4-will i have a chance to come back home to get my stuff?5-oh yeah, and are the apartments furnished?? thank you so much..i have SO many questions, and i'm glad i found somewhere to get them answered Ü Re: after BT... Posted by Raquel on 2/23/2002, 7:34 pm , in reply to "after BT..." 204.119.243.41 After basic and AIT (and any special schools you may have in your contract), you will get sent to your first unit. You will probably have a chance to take leave and visit family at home before then. You can make arrangements to ship your stuff to your new duty station at the Army's expense (you'll learn more about this at AIT). There is a certain weight allowance, plus you only have a room and possibly a large storage closet at your new home. The Army has spent millions of dollars in the last 15 yrs or so upgrading the single soldier living quarters. On some posts, they are exceptionally nice..better than dorm rooms. I think there are very few places you go these days that will have the old style barracks or large numbers of soldiers to a room (when I was a LT, my poor soldiers had to live 4 to a room, and cramped at that!). These days, you will usually have same sex buildings or floors, two people sharing a bathroom in the middle, each with their own room. Furniture will be provided. You'll have either a twin or queen bed, dresser, bureau, desk and chair..just standard stuff that you will be responsible for and stays in the room when you leave. There are also usually big closets, a storage space and a kitchen down the hall (or if you're lucky, a kitchenette in your room). You will not pay rent or utilities for this room..just phone hook-up and phone. Hope that answers your questions:-)) Article 15...I think that's the right number... Posted by Kataratos on 2/22/2002, 10:52 am 152.163.213.46 Someone told me that you can get an Article 15(I think that's the right number) Destruction of Government Property...for getting a sunburn. IS THAT TRUE!?!?!? Re: Article 15...I think that's the right number... Posted by Raquel on 2/23/2002, 7:37 pm , in reply to "Article 15...I think that's the right number..." 204.119.243.41 That's probably stretching the limits of the regulation. What they probably meant with that, is that, hey, you were negligent and should've used sunburn if the burn is severe enough that you couldn't do your job, let's say. Article 15s are used as a disciplinary measure, so if you intentionally disobeyed, yes, you could be charged with an Art 15 for something like this..depends on the circumstances. piercings...i got a few Posted by Q on 2/22/2002, 3:39 am 152.163.213.62 so i have several piercings in my ears, my tongue, my labret(chin right below lips) and both my nipples. i heard females can keep their ear piercings, but what about the rest? will they find the ones in my nipples if i don't take them out? thank you... Re: piercings...i got a few Posted by Sgt.Jackson on 3/14/2002, 4:09 pm , in reply to "piercings...i got a few" 199.91.33.254 The Army does not allow you to have these other piercings. Sorry. Re: piercings...i got a few Posted by Raquel on 2/22/2002, 8:38 am , in reply to "piercings...i got a few" 204.119.243.201 Basically, the Army's body piercing policy is that you may not wear any kind of piercing (except for pierced ears for females in certain kinds of uniforms) while on a military installation, or an area under military control, whether in uniform OR civilian clothes. So, soldiers are allowed to wear piercings, off post and when they are off-duty in civilian clothes. You're gonna have to take off your piercings for basic and AIT obviously. Not only because it's Army policy, but I think with all the physical training and things you do in basic, the risk is there anyway of getting things ripped off, literally! And you tend to stay more dirty while at basic also...lots of opportunities for infection (especially for new piercings I would think). Re: piercings...i got a few Posted by anonymous on 2/22/2002, 8:06 am , in reply to "piercings...i got a few" 199.253.174.9 How about tattoos ... got several but none on my forearms, neck, or hands Army's tattoo policy... Posted by Raquel on 2/22/2002, 8:40 am , in reply to "Re: piercings...i got a few" 204.119.243.201 You can read about the Army's tattto policy at About.com below: Link: Army's tattoo policy at About.com fighting Posted by moss on 2/22/2002, 1:07 am 65.26.24.193 is there alot of fighting amoung the recruits, do people get beat with soap while they sleep? Re: fighting Posted by Raquel on 2/22/2002, 8:32 am , in reply to "fighting" 204.119.243.201 I would say that there can be a lot of stress and tension among the recruits. The drill sergeants do keep an eye out for situations that may be headed to conflict and usually nip it before it gets any worse. There have been a few times where trainees did get into fistfights (both male and female). I can personally only think of one time where trainees ganged up on one recruit with the soap in the towel trick (yes, he was a bit slow and they somehow felt he was holding their platoon back in their twisted minds). I ended up kicking those two guys who did the beating, out of the Army. Most recruits know that the Army does not tolerate this kind of severe behavior..but do remember that because of the stress, we do anticipate some fighting amongst the recruits..mostly verbal, which occasionally may lead to something further. The drills are very good at stopping the behavior before it gets to that point. Re: fighting Posted by Kataratos on 2/22/2002, 10:54 am , in reply to "Re: fighting" 152.163.213.46 Is there any aranged fighting? Like if two recruits consistently have a problem...do they ever throw them together for some hand to hand unarmed combat? (no subject) Posted by Rov on 2/22/2002, 12:25 pm , in reply to "Re: fighting" 199.253.174.9 That would be great if they did : MOS 95-B Posted by Will on 2/21/2002, 5:25 pm 205.138.230.87 Does anyone know what you need to get on the ASVAB to get to be MOS 95B "MP"? Re: MOS 95-B Posted by Dave on 2/28/2002, 1:41 pm , in reply to "MOS 95-B" 216.21.175.17 I am going in for MP too, My recruter is an MP and i have gotten tons of information from him on the MOS! He told me you have to score a 50 on the ASVAB. when are you shipping out? Re: MOS 95-B Posted by Raquel on 2/21/2002, 8:57 pm , in reply to "MOS 95-B" 204.119.245.185 You can find all the requirements for 95B at the website below: Link: 95B MOS Requirements at About.com ASVAB/MOS Posted by Anonymous on 2/21/2002, 1:34 pm 199.253.174.9 Are your chances of getting an Infantry MOS dependent upon whether or not you do well in the egineering/electrical/mechanical part of the ASVAB test? I hardly know any of that stuff. I am hoping that the test repeats its questions a lot since that is my tactics in getting those questions right - memorizing previous exam questions. Thanks Re: ASVAB/MOS Posted by Raquel on 2/21/2002, 9:01 pm , in reply to "ASVAB/MOS" 204.119.245.185 Regardless of how you do (provided you get the minimum), there are many more slots for Infantry than most other MOSs. I think chances are very good that you would get Infantry. Re: ASVAB/MOS Posted by Kataratos on 2/21/2002, 4:38 pm , in reply to "ASVAB/MOS" 205.188.193.169 Mathmatical probability...on a multiple choice test, if a monkey could master the concept of choosing only one answer...he would get a 25%...surely you have the brain of 3 monkeys. Good Luck. Seriously, when I took it, I did pretty well...just guessing (and I don't even know how to start a car...) Re: ASVAB/MOS Posted by anonymous on 2/28/2002, 11:46 am , in reply to "Re: ASVAB/MOS" 199.253.174.9 Yoe were right Kataratos ... I scored really high ... In fact ... The counselor gave me props on how well I did on the engineering part ... I don't know **** about engineering. Guess I am smarter than 3 monkeys Thanks war Posted by kevin on 2/21/2002, 11:25 am 199.253.174.9 Are you sent to War only after AIT? Re: war Posted by Raquel on 2/21/2002, 8:59 pm , in reply to "war" 204.119.245.185 It is certainly in the Army's best interest to send recruits "to war" who are trained to do their jobs. If that time were to come, rest assured that you would be trained to do just that..and that would only come after AIT. |
